More Mosely 21' questions.......

[bgreene]

For the few that may know, how does the rough water ride compare to these hulls:

SeaCraft 23
Mako 21 -25
Reg 23

Just interested in the history of this rare boat, so posing the question this way may ferrit out some perspective.

[Islandtrader]

Originally Posted by bgreene

For the few that may know, how does the rough water ride compare to these hulls:

SeaCraft 23
Mako 21 -25
Reg 23

Just interested in the history of this rare boat, so posing the question this way may ferrit out some perspective.

I can answer some of the above...Mako vs. Seacraft...hands down SC

Regulator...no experience...I am sure some one will chime in.

21 vs. 23 Seacraft....this is from the "Man" himself.

The 21 was a rough, tough boat for off-shore work that can carry a heavy load in high seas with very good speed. The 19& the 20 Center consol and the Cuddy Cabin were designed for coastal and bay work. The 20 was a modified 19 hull with advance design characteristics.

The 23 models were designed after I sold and left the company. They were basically a 21 bottom stretched out and the freeboard lowered. I had a demo ride in rough water a couple of years after the boat hit the market. The sales/demo driver asked me what I thought about the boat. My reply was there are a couple of things I would have done differently. He came back with that may be so, but it is so much better than any thing else on the market.

Funny things happen when you stretch out a hull or change things on the bottom. It can be a gain in some ways and a loss in others. A good big boat can mostly out perform a little boat. Foot for foot, I like the21.

[bgreene]

Very interesting, thanks for posting.

I wonder why a boat like the 21' Mosely isn't readily available today.

Many of us are fairly hard core salt water fisherman, who favor a 21' boat based on trailerabiliy and weight.

The majority of boat's in this size class don't come close to the concept of the 21 Mosely.

I know there are some 23- 24 degree boat's available, but as a total package of functional style, storage, freeboard, fishing room etc I dont believe many options out there.

Sort of like the classic Wellcraft V20/ V21, but on steroids, hulk style.

[Islandtrader]

Originally Posted by bgreene

Very interesting, thanks for posting.

I wonder why a boat like the 21' Mosely isn't readily available today.

We drank the water...a lot of people have not!

[kmoose]

Originally Posted by Islandtrader

We drank the water...a lot of people have not!

Not a whole lot of that water out there to drink.... So few of these hulls exist to compare to other designs in similar configurations. Terry's rig is a spectacular specimen that I had the pleasure of standing in. Looking forward to Long Point to hear more of what he's learned now that he has put some time on it.

[Bigshrimpin]

Originally Posted by Islandtrader

We drank the water...a lot of people have not!

I love the old v20's (I used to have one when I started the V20 site in 2003), but the ride doesn't compare to the 23 let alone the old 21. What those 21's did in the 1960's races is nothing short of amazing.

[bgreene]

Here off New Jersey, ocean fishing conditions are frequently 2' -3' short chop on top of assorted wave action.

Lot's of small boats slogging their way through this stuff.
From what I've read, the 21' was built to blast through these conditions:
A. without pounding.
B. without worry the boat will loosen up / leak / break.

I ran a Hydrasport boat once - it simply didn't pound, but really needed tabs -that's the trade off. Landings were " whoosh, whoosh", not bam / bam.

[BigLew]

Originally Posted by Bigshrimpin

I love the old v20's (I used to have one when I started the V20 site in 2003), but the ride doesn't compare to the 23 let alone the old 21. What those 21's did in the 1960's races is nothing short of amazing.

But... being a salesman by nature and profession I would answer , "...but you can make him THIRSTY along the way!"