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Old 06-07-2009, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: VERY RARE CSC - 27 Foot - Super Fisherman

For scale comparison, here she is next to an Henriques 28.

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Old 06-08-2009, 08:21 AM
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Does anyone know whether this is the same 27' hull design Moesly built as a flybridge sportfisherman in the 60s? From the spec sheet it looks to be much lighter.
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Old 06-08-2009, 03:32 PM
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Not sure what difference is, but might be due to this being an open boat (center console) without cabin weight.
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Old 06-08-2009, 04:50 PM
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Does anyone know whether this is the same 27' hull design Moesly built as a flybridge sportfisherman in the 60s? From the spec sheet it looks to be much lighter.

It is not the same as Moesly 27. Yes it is a VDH based on the spec's of the SeaCraft hull. If I inderstand correctly it isn't a Potter built either. I believe these where built by Johnny Moress (SeaCraft/Tracker)
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Old 06-08-2009, 09:58 PM
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When my boat (1969 27') was down at my local marina, they brought in a 1986 model and it was parked right next to it.. We all compared the hull, every dimension was the same except for the transom. The 86 was flat like a 23 Seacraft, mine had the in-dented portion for the I/O's. I spoke with Bill Potter a few years back and he did indicate selling the molds to the Moress brothers. My guess is the later hulls were splashed from an original 27 hull (Just a guess) All I know is the shape of the hull was exact in every dimension. The 86 had a cap, mine does not. My hull is very thick, my guess is in 1986, maybe they finally figured out they could use a lot less glass.


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Old 06-09-2009, 04:28 PM
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Bearfish answered on page 1 that the 27's were CSY era prior to Tracker which makes sense and I remember Dan's post about the comparison between the 27's from being side by side in the shop. Don is right about them not being a Potter boat as far as we have found...........
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Old 06-09-2009, 11:30 PM
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From all research I have done or seen, this model was built by CSY in '85 and '86.

Mine has a hull ID that starts SIC...86

Someone else may be able to add more to this, but they were only built in couple years by CSY from what I know.
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:13 AM
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Bearfish, for that model you are correct, I don't think Potter made any center console 27's. I was just referring to the hull of the 27. Here is an e-mail I dug up from the man himself !! Bill potter e-mailed me back in 2003, he was also interested in my Pilot house (Shamrock). from this e-mail I would assume my boat was Potter Built, or maybe the Merritt Brothers made the hulls???.
I was just asking what trailer he had preferred.

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The beam on the 27s we built was 9' 10" and the centerline length was 26' 9". The hull deadrise at the transom was 18 degrees. The weight of your boat will be the determining factor for the number of axles. I like Continental trailers and they could advise you about the best size for your boat. Talk to Kelly Hays at Waterland Mfg./Continental Trailers [305] 594 1022. continentaltrailers.com.
I believe your boat was built up from a tooling hull we sold to one of the Merrits who built some of the best custom sport fishing boats in the 35' and up sizes here in south Florida. Most of the 27s we built from 1968 til 1980 were IOs, but our last series the 27 Master Anglers were twin inboards [16 out of a total of 38, built from ' 78 to ' 80]
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Old 06-14-2009, 04:18 PM
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I am interested in the boat for specific research I am doing. The key dimension is the transom chine beam, not waterline beam or beam overall. If it s greater than 88 inches, it doesn't work for me. The second critical dimension is the height of the longitudinal step risers between hull panels. My SeaCraft 25' is slightly less than 2" and the SeaCraft 21' is 2.5". Our experiments and computer work show that you need at least 2.5" for this size boat and higher for bigger boats. The 21' has such exceptional seakeeping I've been thinking of making a slight scale up of it or stretching it to 26' in order to carry the weights that are required. I'm sure Moesly incorporated all the lessons learned from the 21' into the 27' so it would be simpler for me to acquire this hull if it is indeed identical to the '60s Moesly version. The originals were also about the full load weight I'm interested in. I will be on the East Coast at the end of the month and could meet to discuss further and possibly make a deal.
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Old 06-14-2009, 10:21 PM
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Bigfluke, Just wondering if you bought the 25 that was for sale on Cape Cod last year? I heard it was shipped to HI. It was a CC conversion and I'm wondering how it rides compared to the original version. Thanks and good luck with your projects, Steve
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