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Old 05-12-2015, 07:32 PM
RickBomba RickBomba is offline
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Default Adding Rod Holders to 1986 20 Foot CC

Hi Guys,
I want to add another pair of rod holders (swivel type) just forward of the rear cleats.

My question is, if I drill the holes for the bolts and the rod holder, how to I fasten the nuts (because I can't reach up under the gunnel).

Has anybody done this? Any company out there sell a backing plate with the bolts welded to the plate?

I guess I could just use double sided tape and tape the nuts in place.

Thanks,
Rick
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Old 05-13-2015, 06:14 AM
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The swivel rod holders that I am familiar with are heavy duty and the swivel tension is adjustable. You would want the mount to be very solid and the rod holder to be removable without a lot of hassle so that you can adjust them if needed. If your gunnel is not cored then I would try to find the best way to glue some coring on the underside where the rod holder will be mounted. If the only way is through the round hole in the top of the gunnel that could be tough, like playing operation with strips of coring and epoxy putty. Maybe not a workable plan! You might also consider a small round access plate below it on the inside liner to get to everything. If you put it near the bottom of the swivel cup then you could caulk everything in and still reach the swivel without removing the holder.

Good luck!
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Old 05-13-2015, 07:12 AM
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round access plate is really the only way to get to the back side easily.
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Old 05-13-2015, 08:03 AM
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ALTERNATIVE METHODS:
Prepare a metal or composite backing plate cut it in half at the appropriate spot, butter it up with an epoxy adhesive, ( after solvent cleaning/sanding the underside of the deck,) and insert the pieces through the big bore hole for the rod holder's tube. Some sort of 'lift-up fixture will be required to hold the two plates in position until the adhesive sets. If you use 1/4" composite plate the rodholder flange holes can be bored undersized and the backing plate then tapped for 1/4-20 threads.

WELD-MOUNT , BIGHEAD, and others make 'nut-plates' that can be adhesively bonded in place. The nut is free to move around a bit after the nut plate is bonded, reducing fastener/thread alignment problems. I think a backing plate is still advisable

Be very careful to make sure you get the aft/outboard angle on the rod holder tube's bore correct.. aimed too far outboard and the bottom of the tube will hit the sidewall of the liner.

If you have a moment for more research, visit the Professional Boatbuilder magazine website and search for the article I wrote a number of years ago on problems associated with rod holder installation. Do a search by my name, Bruce Pfund.

I suggest avoiding a Py-Hi type access plates if at all possible.

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Old 05-13-2015, 08:35 PM
RickBomba RickBomba is offline
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Thanks Guys!
BP, I thought about cutting the backing plate in half idea...the holding up part while it sets would be the biggest challenge.

Access ports are good ideas, too.

Thanks for the ideas, Guys!
Rick
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Old 05-17-2015, 12:32 PM
RickBomba RickBomba is offline
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I took a look at the gunnel today. It's not flat on the underside, so there's a new twist.

As far as the mounting plates go, I'll go with stainless and tack the nuts to the bottom of the plate. I'll then fab them to be in a "U" shape and slide them in through the hole for the rod holder.

I really want them back by the stern cleats, but looks like they will need to go forward of the existing rod holders.

Next plan is to figure out where to store the bent butt rods when underway.
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