Question ref the old 21' hull

[Bigshrimpin]

Originally Posted by SandlapperGT

Was it that the 21 was faster given the available horsepower outboards at the time?

I think this is the answer and it's just a guess on my part . . . since the highest HP was 100 available in outboard form. Shortening the boat to 21 would make it lighter and faster, but that's just a guess on my part.

http://store.oldmercs.com/category_s/792.htm

I found this quote from Sandy.
"Carla said the best racers wanted the shortest hulls for less weight and more top end."

http://www.classicseacraft.com/commu...=24967&page=14

[Bigshrimpin]

I don't know how I missed this one on Carla's site.

http://www.moeslyseacraft.com/upload...2013-no144.pdf

[Islandtrader]

Originally Posted by Bigshrimpin

I like that windshield and I really think the 21's layout maximizes the use of space. The layout reminds me of a sailboat cockpit in a way with all the storage. It's beautiful in a very functional sense. I really wish there was a 21 hull with a seafari cap/cabin. I suppose that idea turned into the 25.

Ok I give up...you love your kid...and I thought my kid was ugly so I gave it plastic surgery....

You know Carla is building one.. This is what she and Skip are contemplating ...Looks pretty cool!

[kmoose]

That would sell and I would be on the waiting list! More over I would love to see it with a 2 foot extension utilizing it as a eurotransom. Now that would be a must have 23.

[gofastsandman]

Originally Posted by Bigshrimpin

I think this is the answer and it's just a guess on my part . . . since the highest HP was 100 available in outboard form. Shortening the boat to 21 would make it lighter and faster, but that's just a guess on my part.

http://store.oldmercs.com/category_s/792.htm

I found this quote from Sandy.
"Carla said the best racers wanted the shortest hulls for less weight and more top end."

http://www.classicseacraft.com/commu...=24967&page=14

The Seafari house on that hull looks right.

When Carl made the mold outta plywood, 2x4`s ,and Formica for the dedicated race hulls,
he made the transom adjustable for a reason. Just as Tim has said. Carl knew the 25 would be faster given the power of the day, but you would increase face washing and spinal compression.

Mark Hauptner ran with Carl in `67 on the Haulover to KW race. Mark said they had trip
110`s and lost one around Summerland Key. Mark said they set a new ob record of 62 kts.
Now, were these special motors? If Frank Brown and Mr K were involved, I would say without a doubt.

The first two hulls popped from the mold were the only 25`s.
One red and one yellow.

10 total were made. Anyone have a break down of the lengths and numbers?



Cheers,
GFS

[McGillicuddy]

Originally Posted by Islandtrader

You know Carla is building one.. This is what she and Skip are contemplating ...Looks pretty cool!

Attachment 11621

Wow nice workup. I remember the early photos when the safari cap was salvaged and some early drawingg, but never saw this... I love it! Color scheme too. More sketches please.

[flyingfrizzle]

Originally Posted by gofastsandman

dedicated race hulls,

The first two hulls popped from the mold were the only 25`s.
One red and one yellow.

Cheers,
GFS

Here is a quote from Richie Powers that raced both 21 and the larger purpose built hulls.....

Quote from member X7champ (serious offshore) "I used to race them. The original seacraft co. was founded by Carl Mosely and his wife Jean. Carl used to race his boats and caught the attention of Carl Kiekhaefer of mercury who bought several boats to race his outboards against the OMC offshore factory teams. I am talking about 1964 to 1968/69. We used to buy the hulls from Moesly without decks and build them out at lake X we had custom plywood decks glassed over, most all boats had tandem cockpits, the days before the throttleman position. I had my own factory boats. First was 21' with twin 110 in line 6`s next was 25' with triple 135 hp in line 6`s. Carl also built a 29' race boat. I believe it was 1968/9 when Bill Potter came in and bought the company from Carl, with the intention of mass production. The real Seacraft was Carl Moesly, Potter actually just produced what Carl had designed and built, he was not a designer or manufacturer, just happened into the industry. I became good friends with Bill and speak with him to this day. Bottom line, the Seacraft is still a great boat and has a pedigree background, here in Fla. people still seek them out and restore them. One of my favorites was a little 15' sport boat that they built, when I was a test driver for Merc. I ran one for many hours, we used to run the Renault 60 & 80 hp mercruiser packages, Freddie Kiekhaefer had one custom built with Mercruiser 140 hp that was really fun. Most of the 15`s were a color of Burnt Orange, if you ever find one let me know, I would love to have it. Good luck with a Seacraft, you cannot go wrong."

[SandlapperGT]

The 21 looks nice like that. Looks like Carla inherited some of her Dad's talent.

Since there are so few of the 21s available, any idea if anyone has the offsets?

[flyingfrizzle]

Originally Posted by Islandtrader

You know Carla is building one.. This is what she and Skip are contemplating ...Looks pretty cool!

Attachment 11621

Its been a while since they have posted a picture of their project, I.T. you should talk Carla into posting up a few current photos. I could look at her lines all day. (the boat)


Last pic I seen, hope she don't mind me reposting:

[Bushwacker]

I can report that the Seafari cap is now solidly attached. I have some newer photos I could post with Carla's permission, but she probably has some better ones. I've attached a sketch I made up by overlaying some scaled photos and brochures of the Seafari and the 21. The headroom in that cabin is impressive with that high bow and is probably similar to a Seafari 25! It will be one unique sharp looking boat!