Question for K MOOSE

[bgreene]

With the bulkhead extended back......did it affect the boat's balance & performance, and if so, how did you adjust to get it just right ?

Thanks in advance

[kmoose]

Folks get way too wrapped up with CG on a 23’ foot boat. First, Tsunami configuration is already weight forward compared to a CC so my mod didn’t impact weight shift that much compared to the addition of the bracket. The fuel tank was moved forward slightly but fuel weight isn’t static so it varies throughout the day. The biggest weight distribution factor on a small boat is trip loading (ice, gear, people, etc.). This is why I left the port deck clear to place my 250qt cooler anywhere it needs to be to compensate the days particular load. People load is the biggest factor that can be easily adjusted by where they sit or stand while running. Any other weight issue can be adjusted withe the tabs. Again, fixating on static CG on an empty 23’ narrow hull is the least of considerations unless you are hanging too much weight on the stern causing deck draining issues.

[bgreene]

I believe yours the only I’ve seen with bulkhead pushed back so it’s interesting....and sure looks good.

[Snookerd]

Originally Posted by kmoose

Folks get way too wrapped up with CG on a 23’ foot boat.

My favorite quote on here is “all of this for just a boat ride”! If I had an extra hour for every post I’ve had on here in the last 18 years, I would be approaching an extra year of boating. Hi my name is Snookerd, and I’m an addict.

Saying people are too wrapped up on CG on a 23ft SeaCraft On CSC.com with over 65 thousand posts on the topic of performance, mods, and repairs on a website dedicated to people with the greatest amount of OCD in the world tied to these boats is like going to Lynchburg, TN., Home of Jack Daniels and telling the folks of their town that filtering the distilled mash through 10 ft stacks of sugar, maple, and ground charcoal aka the “Lincoln County Process” is unnecessary.

I agree that CG can be a non-issue on our Sceptres, Tsunamis, and 20 Seafaris. Those dang center consoles And 25 Seafaris are the biggest culprits of CG differences!

[kmoose]

Originally Posted by Snookerd

My favorite quote on here is “all of this for just a boat ride”! If I had an extra hour for every post I’ve had on here in the last 18 years, I would be approaching an extra year of boating. Hi my name is Snookerd, and I’m an addict.

Saying people are too wrapped up on CG on a 23ft SeaCraft On CSC.com with over 65 thousand posts on the topic of performance, mods, and repairs on a website dedicated to people with the greatest amount of OCD in the world tied to these boats is like going to Lynchburg, TN., Home of Jack Daniels and telling the folks of their town that filtering the distilled mash through 10 ft stacks of sugar, maple, and ground charcoal aka the “Lincoln County Process” is unnecessary.

I agree that CG can be a non-issue on our Sceptres, Tsunamis, and 20 Seafaris. Those dang center consoles And 25 Seafaris are the biggest culprits of CG differences!

I know it's a focal point for many and understand it can rub some feathers the wrong way but for me it is such a fluid point regardless of how much science goes into it on a small boat. Too many times I have seen CG concerns dominate how someone wants to lay out a re-build leading them to compromise unnecessarily.

I do agree that CCs and 25 Seafaris require extra consideration and that is one of the reasons I like the Sceptre/Tsunami platform so much.

[cdavisdb]

CG, CG, CG, Sometimes over-emphasized, but not always. I'd disagree on the 20 seafari CG being a non-issue. Put too much weight in the stern, bracket an outboard, etc and that boat will fall off a plane at 15 kts+. In a little boat, that REALLY makes a difference when its rough. That holds even if you load it heavy forward (personal experience)

Mostly Moose is right. Most boats, loaded so they are close to a good CG, and they will perform just great. Even the 25 Seafari, which is sensitive to CG, performs just fine when the CG is off. It just performs much better if the CG is right.

[Snookerd]

Originally Posted by cdavisdb

fall off a plane at 15 kts+. In a little boat, that REALLY makes a difference when its rough. That holds even if you load it heavy forward (personal experience)

Originally Posted by kmoose

Too many times I have seen CG concerns dominate how someone wants to lay out a re-build leading them to compromise unnecessarily.

Well said Connor and Ken....there is no replacement for experience.

[bgreene]

K Moose ....did you add custom cushions inside the cuddy given the extra room you created ?
Pics of interest if you’re inclined ....

[Spidercrab]

mr greenjeans mr & mrs moose did a bang up job on dare statesroom very roomy an comfie



bye sam

[gofastsandman]

Originally Posted by kmoose

Folks get way too wrapped up with CG on a 23’ foot boat. First, Tsunami configuration is already weight forward compared to a CC so my mod didn’t impact weight shift that much compared to the addition of the bracket. The fuel tank was moved forward slightly but fuel weight isn’t static so it varies throughout the day. The biggest weight distribution factor on a small boat is trip loading (ice, gear, people, etc.). This is why I left the port deck clear to place my 250qt cooler anywhere it needs to be to compensate the days particular load. People load is the biggest factor that can be easily adjusted by where they sit or stand while running. Any other weight issue can be adjusted withe the tabs. Again, fixating on static CG on an empty 23’ narrow hull is the least of considerations unless you are hanging too much weight on the stern causing deck draining issues.

You nailed it for your boat!