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[striper56]

I am looking into repowering my 23 Sceptre with a Suzuki 250. Do I want standard analog gauges or digital? Fly by wire or standard configuration?
Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks

[kmoose]

Originally Posted by striper56

I am looking into repowering my 23 Sceptre with a Suzuki 250. Do I want standard analog gauges or digital? Fly by wire or standard configuration?
Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks

C-10 gauge and fly by wire. The 250AP and 300AP can be had for the same price or very little difference as they are identical other than the tuning in the ecm. Amazing motor that on my Tsunami get 2.4 nautical MPG overall trip average and up to 2.7 lightly loaded. More power than you will ever need and a 50 mph boat depending on configuration and propping.

I'm approaching 400 hours without a burp and my last DF250 non AP that I traded in was 11 years old and still running fine. Easy to do maintenance that can be done on your own if you're handy.

[Ed]

Suzuki is coming out with new gauges next month. The first variant is similar to the C-10 but is a less complex version and is made by Suzuki and not Lowrance. It looks nice and is easy to read but again is targeted toward those who find the C-10 too confusing (i.e. too many options) to program.

The second variant is made by Furuno and is basically a gauge/chart plotter integrated all in one.

[Ed]

PS - If you can afford the $$$ difference, go with the digital shift and throttle.

[striper56]

So I decided to go with the 250. Here are a couple of quotes I got from a local dealer.
What do you thing?
Do the new gauges have a name so I can ask for them by name?

Electric Controlls
Remove existing engine and controls. Install new engine with
electronic controls and interface gauge into customers existing GPS.
Seatrial and warranty register engine.

DF250APX2 Black 25"
Single Electronic Control Kit
67000-98JE4 Single Binnacle Control Kit
36620-98J41 Main harness 31'
34000-96L43 Multi function gauge kit
990C0-88L00-Kit Cable kit
Propeller allowance ( Stainless)

Suzuki Give me Six Warranty Program. When Non Commercial
customers purchase a qualifying motor they will receive SEP ( three
year limited warranty plus three year Suzuki extended protection).
Total $22,386.91





Cable controls
Remove existing engine and controls. Install new engine with
mechanical controls.
Sub Total on Non taxable Labor/Services


Suzuki DF250TX2 Black 25"
Single Basic Mechanical Control Kit
67000-88L01 Single Binnacle Control
36620-93J02 Main Harness 21ft
34000-96L43 Multi function Gauge kit.
TEL CCX Xtreme Cables (2)

Propeller allowance. ( Stainless )
Suzuki Valentine Customer Rebate. (Good from Feb. 1st- Feb.
28th) Engine has to be bought, installed and registered during this
time to receive rebate.
Suzuki Give me Six Warranty Program. When Non Commercial
customers purchase a qualifying motor they will receive SEP ( three
year limited warranty plus three year Suzuki extended protection).


Total $19434.68


The other option is to take the commercial package which is 15% less but you only get a one year warranty. The motors have a great reputation would it be worth the 15% savings?

Thanks

[kmoose]

Seems a little high but motors seem to be cheaper down here due to supply. Give Brian @ international marine service a call for a quote just for comparison. I know they have a shop up your way but not sure how close. Well worth getting a quote from them as they will beat any quote you get regardless. At least you would have a little leverage to bargain with if you know the bottom line.

Also, the DF 250AP is a completely different motor than the 250TX. The AP is a de-tuned 300 with forged crank, rods and pistons, lean burn and a much more robust lower unit with low water pickup. There is literally no difference in power accept at the top end to the 300.

The TX is the motor I had before I repowered. Great motor that has been around for a decade but will not give you the same performance or fuel economy of the AP.

As far as the commercial discount... Hmmm, 15% is huge discount but that is where I think the real price is for the motors and if you shop, should get that price including the warranty.

[Oldboat]

Moose while u are here what battery cable size and type did u use how long was run. Did u go direct engine and eliminate the Suzuki cable. Thx Keith and yes international will beat that price based on my conversation with them last month.

[DonV]

I'll let Moose the Zuke expert tell you about that, however on my Tohatsu/Honda they did NOT want to run the old power cables all the way to the engine. Strongly suggested to only use the ones already factory installed. I took the #2 power cables I had from the other engine, coiled up the excess and connected them to the factory cables with two single post connectors. No problems.

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/blue-...0?recordNum=87

[jorgeinmiami]

www.OverTheTopOutboardSales.com

These guys are supposed to be e good pricing

[Oldboat]

To bad the factory harnesses did not come longer . I watch that video of Suzuki shop in pompano put a 300 on a Rambo and the installer said they don’t use the factory cable and shows them doing a direct cable install. I take care of a few boats in the keys and one of them has the factory Yamaha cables tie in under the rear storage area of the boat and we have had corrosion problems with it being exposed ,grant me bad design but no problem if the cable had no break point. I am all about following the factory spec but it is good conversation.