Not a CSC but definitely Classic

[workinpr0gress]

I have always loved these old Mopars that are older than me. I've had a couple of Cudas and a Fury myself in the past, two were 440's and a 340. I've been goofing off on this old 62 for a buddy. It's so ugly but mean at the same time, and fasttttttt. Even by todays standards, now traction, thats something else. Lol. For anybody who appreciates the forward thinking of the SeaCrafts from way back can appreciate that Mopars were unibody since the 50's. When people say, "heavy old car" that was more true of a similar size body on frame GM or Ford. Other things like torsion bars and pinion snubbers, rear leafsprings, a optional pushbutton automatic tranny gave Mopars big advantages at the dragstrip beyond the motor. People know about 440's & 426 HEMI's and rightfully so but before there was a 440 or 426 HEMI there were the 413, 426 Wedge and Max Wedge motors. Of course you also have to mention the 727 pushbutton Torqueflight which allowed racers to "neutral drop" at the line at a time before high stall torque converters.

This is a 13.5-1 compression original 413 max wedge cross ram, pushbutton car. Not my cup-o-tea but you gotta respect how fast and light these old b-body Mopars are. They were the fastest at the strip offered by the big 3 at the time.

[Old'sCool]

Very cool!

[gofastsandman]

Very rare there. Is it radio and heater delete? Alum bumpers and plexi wndows?

A collector here has every year of the 300`s with the cross rams.

That is an ultimate sleeper.

[workinpr0gress]

Yes, stage III, but someone put heat back in it. No plexi windows. The Post Cars didnt all have it for some reason like the hardtop. The last guy who had it put a 10.5-1. 440 in it and crated the 413 for two decades. The motor just ran for the first time in two decades about two months ago, we pulled the pan, put a new oil pump and pick up in it, switched out the carbs with another 413 stage 3 that were ready to go, primed the oil pump, fired right up, never even touched the points.

The guy really likes the 63's and 64's Savoys the best. He has multiple race Hemis, street Hemis, 413, 426, 440, wedges, there's a 400 stroker=451, a 440 stroker= 490 something, mechanical hilborn injection, period correct blowers, HEMI 4 spds. Poly head 318's, 340's, 273's, golden commando motors, old style hemis 392,354,331.

I'm in awe when I'm there.

Darts, Dusters, Demons, Cudas, Chryslers, Satellites, Belvederes.

[DonV]

When I was in High School I thought all these cars were just so darn cool. Now I wonder how did they ever sell them as ugly as they are not just the Mopars, but the Fords, GM, etc. Saw an old Pinto the other day coming down the road toward me, God what a POS that was, along with the Vega.......and a few others.

[workinpr0gress]

Four wheel drum, points, single reservoir master cylinders, manual steering boxes, polyglass tires.

It's amazing how good many of the stock suspension old cars do when they have urethane steering and suspension parts and radial tires with at least front disk brakes.

This thing is the ugliest of the ugly, the only way to make it uglier would be a station wagon , which would be even rarer. Low 11's on a stock motor and ten inch slicks through the mufflers, that makes it even uglier if you have to see the taillights in a race. The heads will flow enough stock to suppourt 600 hp on the moroso scale these are easy low 10sec cars with stock suspension and stay "stock appearing" after massaging them.

[gofastsandman]

Points? Hah, I haven`t picked up a dwell angle meter in 25 years.

The AFX cars were the coolest, but had a little trouble turning in the pits.

[workinpr0gress]

I like em simple for the street, vacuum secondary's with a heavy spring, disc brakes, modern rubber, electronic ignition from the later years, street gears, anything over 11-1 comp. on the street is a pain if you want to run all the timing with the amount of crazy overlap the truly hot old motors had.

My old man had a dual quad 409 4 spd cars 13.5 to 1, like clockwork you'd get a couple passes and it would just have hot start problems like crazy, used to have to pop start that big ol 63

[floorboy]

Cool, Love the old mopars. I've had a few newer ones 68,69,74 charger, 70 cuda 68 R. Runner. Dirt track raced a 70 cuda (it was junk already) for a few years and did real well with that. enduro'd a new yorker with a 440 with a thermoquad and headers out the hood for 5 years, what a tank. I had an old hemi for a while that I traded, cant remember what it was, it was an old one (352??) not a 426.

Unfortunately I was the last owner of most of those cars.....

[workinpr0gress]

Originally Posted by floorboy

Cool, Love the old mopars. I've had a few newer ones 68,69,74 charger, 70 cuda 68 R. Runner. Dirt track raced a 70 cuda (it was junk already) for a few years and did real well with that. enduro'd a new yorker with a 440 with a thermoquad and headers out the hood for 5 years, what a tank. I had an old hemi for a while that I traded, cant remember what it was, it was an old one (352??) not a 426.

Unfortunately I was the last owner of most of those cars.....

I had a a-body cuda with a solid mounted 12.5-1 440 with steel heads that flowed like a Indy head. Then I put that motor in a e-body cuda and lost a 5 tenths from the weight, but man an e-body cuda is the prettiest musclecar ever made to me. I had a 67 fury that I put a hp 340 in as a driver.

Those thermoquads can flow, too bad they were bakolite. I had a Keith Black flowed thermoquad that used to flow about 900-1000cfm. Being a spreadbore with tiny primary's they were miserly if you could stay out of the secondaries. I hated having to pay attention like a hawk to when it coughed or backfired or you'd be putting an intake on along with a carb from all the melted goo.