*** 23' Sceptre / Tsunami Engine Height Set Up *** How High

[GameOnSalmon]

Hey Guys,
What height are you running your Cavitation plates on your 23'
Sceptres. I have seen a couple posts saying that this hull likes at
least 2 Inches High above the bottom of the Hull... I am wondering
if its possible to get Great Performance with the right prop at 2 1/2".

WHY? I am having a hell of a time finding a 25" shaft motor in my price
range. I can grab 200 and 225 hp motors all day long at 20". I have
an enclosed transom and 29" Stainless Marine Setback Bracket with
flotation. If i could get through this season with a Decent 20" Motor
then Next going to Spring and put on a Reconditioned 300hp Evinrude
Etec.

Ideas...Thoughts... I know the engine is sitting low, but... If it will work its
better than dropping the $900 to install the bay Extension kit... or the
10 hours to swap out exhaust housings and gearboxs.

Let me.. Know your Cavitation Plate Height.. along with Engine Set Up and Prop... with Prop Pitch/Diameter.

Thanks in Advance Robert

[GameOnSalmon]

Spent about an hour looking at 15 plus Seacrafts with Brackets. I can't help but think every last one of them was set up improperly. I did not find one on a bracket that was not bolted in the very top hole. This leads me to believe that almost every motor is set up too Deep...

These are all 23' footers...

Really starting to think that adding a 20" in the Top Hole on my Bracket should be close to perfect for Height... The only thing I am giving up is a measly 2" of Engine height to the water line... Not seeing it as a big deal...

Love to hear some feedback from Guys...

Thanks

[kmoose]

The issue you will run into is when you pull her off a plane and the backwake buries your motor. Brackets make it even worst. You are much better off continuing your search for a 25" if not a 30".

[GameOnSalmon]

Originally Posted by kmoose

The issue you will run into is when you pull her off a plane and the backwake buries your motor. Brackets make it even worst. You are much better off continuing your search for a 25" if not a 30".

Thanks for the input Moose. Your boat looks like the cavitation plate is almost flush with the bottom...
or are you up some above it...?

Appreciate it...

Robert

[kmoose]

Two inches above the bottom but I am running a 10 inch offset plate that allows me to adjust motor height with just a wrench. I am also running a 30 inch motor which keeps her nice and dry.

[GameOnSalmon]

Originally Posted by kmoose

Two inches above the bottom but I am running a 10 inch offset plate that allows me to adjust motor height with just a wrench. I am also running a 30 inch motor which keeps her nice and dry.

Moose.. Thanks for the Reply... So the question remains now...are you still too low...? with 10" of setback you should be able to run 1" higher than normal from boat swell, then add 2" for the way the seacrafts like to run.

Now I am curious as hell to see how high a guy can really run one of these engines on a 23' without prop blow out... and the best overall performing prop.
Thinking this is going to be a little science.

I looked at a ton of 23' sceptre pictures online and almost everyone of them was flush with the bottom of the boat and most were running non-performance props. How much have you monkeyed around with your engine height set up and prop selection?

Robert

[kmoose]

Originally Posted by GameOnSalmon

How much have you monkeyed around with your engine height set up and prop selection?

Herds of Monkeys have been unleashed on my boat developing set up. But unless you are running the exact same set up, none of my specs will likely be close. My motor swings a 16x20 3 blade. That is very specific to the gear set and brand of motor I run and also drives the height I am able to run without turning blowout or cavitation and slippage in different sea conditions. The tipping point for having the motor mounted too high is not a blurry line that is hard to find and unless you are running your boat on a glass flat pond, don't be thinking you will be able to get away with a 20 inch motor..... because you won't without putting a snorkle on it.

[GameOnSalmon]

Originally Posted by kmoose

Herds of Monkeys have been unleashed on my boat developing set up. But unless you are running the exact same set up, none of my specs will likely be close. My motor swings a 16x20 3 blade. That is very specific to the gear set and brand of motor I run and also drives the height I am able to run without turning blowout or cavitation and slippage in different sea conditions. The tipping point for having the motor mounted too high is not a blurry line that is hard to find and unless you are running your boat on a glass flat pond, don't be thinking you will be able to get away with a 20 inch motor..... because you won't without putting a snorkle on it.

Thanks Moose.. Exactly what i wanted to hear... ur boat tuned for your engine with height and prop and load... and No worries.. not getting a Snorkel for 23' think i found a 25" yamaha today...

Robert

[FLexpat]

FWIW - I talked w Ken at PropGods about the same question for my 23 Sceptre I/O. He suggested at least 1" above the bottom and probably closer to 2". Don't want to hijack Robert's thread but I'm probably going for ~1.5+" (since an I/O is kinda hard to adjust).

[Bushwacker]

Originally Posted by GameOnSalmon

Hey Guys,
What height are you running your Cavitation plates on your 23'
Sceptres. I have seen a couple posts saying that this hull likes at
least 2 Inches High above the bottom of the Hull... I am wondering
if its possible to get Great Performance with the right prop at 2 1/2". . .

I think you'll need to be quite a bit higher if bracket setback is 29". Not sure how much this applies to a 23, but I've found that the "raise motor 1" for every foot of setback" rule-of-thumb that's often quoted for brackets is WAY too conservative for my 20! Optimum motor height per BRP is when the AV plate is above green water when you're up on plane and fully trimmed out. Picture below shows the AV plate on my 25" motor at 3.5" above keel BEFORE I had Don Herman redrill the motor mount holes on the bracket to raise it about another inch! And it's STILL too low! Needs to come up another inch for top of AV plate to be above green water, so that would put me somewhere around 5-5.5"! I have to admit that I only picked up about 50 rpm and 0.5 mph with the last raise so another inch might not make much difference, but I'm sort of a perfectionist when it comes to engine performance, so it kinda bugs me if there is any more splash and drag than necessary!