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Old 03-03-2012, 12:59 PM
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Can anyone tell me how to replace the floor scuppers on a 23. My current ones are pitting and have read that is a good indication that they should be replaced. Thanks
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Old 03-03-2012, 03:41 PM
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Many ways to do it if they are thru hull here's a photo sequence of what I did... Also use the search feature for scupper repair etc. Lots of documentation on here...
http://s261.photobucket.com/albums/i...pper%20Repair/

You can get the brass tubing and the Moeller Flaring Tool on line. Some guys have used pvc, stainless and even straight fiberglass. Brass tubes are About $4-7 per 1" dia. tube and about $35 for the tool. More easily found online unless you have a good marine supply store around. Some guys have made their own flaring tools out of old sockets, wood, cold steel, etc.

Make sure you really seal the wood blocks that surround and support the tubes. That is important to a successful result.
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:40 PM
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Thanks McGillicuddy that's very helpfull. Seems like they slide out fairly easily once you remove the flange. I am not sure i undersyand the part with the dowel in the pvc.
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Old 03-04-2012, 01:36 PM
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. . . I am not sure i undersyand the part with the dowel in the pvc.
Here's an old post that might help. http://www.classicseacraft.com/commu...cuppers&page=2
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Old 03-04-2012, 01:42 PM
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My tubes did come out easily by tapping on the length of pvc I drove them out with. The dowel and the pvc sleeve were just an unnecessary idiocy. I thought by creating a center plug I wouldn't use as much epoxy so it wouldn't heat up as much allowing more penetration time into the wood block. Also thought it would also serve to guide the bit when ready to re-drill. It is better to fill the hole completely, let the epoxy cure, and then re-drill. Drilling became difficult because the density and hardness of the pvc and hardened epoxy were so different and there was empty space (drill bit would stick and catch on the edges of the pvc...)

Bushwacker, (who is a wealth of useful information) bored an over-sized hole then taped the bottom and then filled it so when he re-drilled he had a thick fiberglass sleeve around the brass tube. Better idea, I think. You can do a search for his scupper replacement, too. He used a dowel as a guide too, but much more effectively.

As you've probably read the scupper leaks are notorious sources of water ingress on these boats because it occurs below the floor. I actually had a stream of water running down the stringer into the bilge.
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Old 03-05-2012, 09:22 PM
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thanks again guys. i found the tubes at a near by marine supply for $4 and have a buddy who can possibly let me borrow the flanging tool. i will post some pics as soon as i get some work done.
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