Thru hull scuppers ... How did ya fix em

[Miles Offshore]

I knocked my through hull reverse clamshell rigs out of the scuppers in mine yesterday. The 5200 actually broke loose with not a whole lot of effort. The forward one in the fishboxI knocked out as well. Found that the hull was 3/4" thick and the circumfrence around where the fitting was was resined around it. Trying to find a local whaler dealer now to buy new tubes.

[Standing Room Only]

For mine, I used an oversized holesaw after clearing out the old. I used thinned epoxy in the hole to seal the edges. I then had patches of biaxial glass I soaked in epoxy, then placed them in the hole, tight with each preceding patch. You can build this up pretty quickly as the patches are doubled and it is not "too" expensive. After drying then used a 1/2" hole saw and cut out the center. Painted the inside with epoxy mixed with barrier cote. No more brass, and no chance of water intrusion to the new stern. Definetly overkill, but after redoing the transom -- didn't seem like too much.

[Miles Offshore]

Back again, I am thinking instead of brass tubes,etc i am going to do what standing room only describes only using West system and going straight thru the bottom of the hull. Here's how I think it can be done. Drill out an oversized hole thru around the present thru hull. Using duck tape on the bottom, also on the inside of the boat. Put a small hole in the duck tape on the inside injecting west system until the hole thru hull is full. (using plenty of the thickening fluff stuff)After curing for a few days , drilling out a hole the same size as the original so the expandable plug will still work. The whole diameter of the hole will be west system in with a nice border. What does everyone think or am I thinking foolishly here and should i just go with the brass tubes again ??? I plan on doing this the upcoming weekend (4/12-13). Thoughts, pros ,cons??? thanx-craig
(she's almost ready to go back in the drink,)

[Finster]

Miles I like it. I've thought about something simular.
I don't have any thing existing, so I thought I would use a paper towel tube instead. It still needs some thought on how to find center, but should be doable.

[ocuyler]

Miles,

We just finished painting the 23', inside and out. We filled every single hole, including through-transom with West. The only holes in the boat are the drain plug in the transom, 2 s/s bilge thru hulls and the s/s fuel vent.

I'll find out where the water likes to sit and put 2 holes directly into the bilge. The cockpit sole will have oversize drains and piped to the lowest point in the bilge. The transom looks too pretty to cut holes in.

Scott,

Good luck. Leaving for Hilton Head with the little Whaler and a couple of lite rods.

Otto

[ April 09, 2003, 08:16 PM: Message edited by: Otto Cuyler ]

[Miles Offshore]

Hey guys, I pulled the duck tape off today and drilled the holes. It is kind of hard to determine what angle to use on the drill bit. I drilled the hole out with a 1" paddle wheel bit after running a smaller pilot hole on the angle I thought would best come out where it was supposed to. [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] The pilot drill hole was not long enough to go all the way through but it was enough to go for it. I did all the drilling from the outside. Went pretty good. Test fitted the expandable plugs from the inside and they worked fine except I had to expand them a little more than previously so maybe I would have been better off with a 15/16" bit or so. I think it is going to work great. Where the west expanded on the inside of the boat I am going to have to take a dremal tool to remove some of the epoxy that expanded in the well but it doesn't appear to be to bad a job, and its just for cosmetic reasons only. I am going to take a tad bit of west now and lightly coat the inside of the hole with my finger, just for shi*S and giggles. I used a mirror and flashlight to inspect the holes (this sounds badI know) and they appear to be fine. I put right much of the filler stuff into the west when I mixed it and it seems to have caused some air bubbles so I would not use them again. Anyways sorry for the long post, I think this is going to be the ticket with no brass tubes, flare tools, 5200, etc. I took a couple of pictures today and I will put them up soon. It will be ahwile before I piut up the completed project but since I finally used up this roll of film you guys can finally see my redone console!!!~ craig

[ April 16, 2003, 07:15 PM: Message edited by: Miles Offshore ]

[Finster]

Miles, you were happy with the way it drained with original scupper config? I was working on mine today and I'm kind of undesided how to go, original or off the transom? Since my boat is disected either is not a problem. But I keep thinking, if the origianl config was so good how come the boat manufactures don't use it anymore?.....Well it will be a while before it have to make a decision, I've decided to name it
"Itchy Arms". [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] ......not.

[ April 16, 2003, 07:34 PM: Message edited by: Finster ]

[Miles Offshore]

Finster, In my eyes I likethe present configuration better than if they ran thru th e transom. The main reason is that I like it when it rains the rain water just flows towards the stern and out the boat. This is just a preference. Running thru te transom would have a big advantage also though because you could increase the size of the thru-hull to say 1 1/2 to 2" which will get rid of water fast if you happen to take a green one over the bow, and also you dont have to worry about plugging them up like you do when they run thru the hull. Six of one..........

[Miles Offshore]

Scott, the hole was probably 1 3/8" prior to plugging up. I drilled it back out 1" hole. The only problem I had was the epoxy expanding on me inside the boat. I believe if I had sealed the inside with duck tape as I had on the bottom it would have kept the epoxy put. I poked a hole in the duck tape big enough for the syringe to go into on the previous horizontal holes and it worked fine. Now I have to remove the epoxy and it is quite hard !! Only enough room for a dremel tool that I can think of in the well, I just hope I dont mess up the gelcoat
inside while trying to remove it.
Finster- yes the first thing I do when I get on the boat is plug them both up. Other than when the boat is moored the only time I open them is when I need to drain water, blood etc, then the plugs go back in. I believe they are the standard 3/4" expandable plugs. Also did this previously on the old 20 I/O i used to own. If there is a really strong wind that is producing a lot of spray I will also remove the plugs though while running although it is rare when I need to do this.craig

[ April 17, 2003, 01:00 PM: Message edited by: Miles Offshore ]

[Miles Offshore]

BTW-Ill get the exact mesurement that the hole was when I get home from work this evening. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]