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Old 10-22-2004, 08:52 AM
sogilmore sogilmore is offline
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Default Re: 23 Self-bailing deck history ?

I am replacing the tanks in my boat, the dual tanks were nice as I could run the aft down leaving the fwd tank full, it helped keep my butt from dragging any deeper than it had too. But I would prefer a single tank.

DOES ANYONE HAVE DRAWINGS for the original 72 gal. tank? Will you be able to scetch out what yr 72 gal. is by way of dimensions. There is a prob w/ the existing fwd tank, so it will not be replaced as is, so I am open to a new game plan.

-Sean
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Old 10-22-2004, 08:56 AM
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BANDIT ALL YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT WET FEET ARE OVER. You must not have ever read the thread about “THE VORTEX” Yes friends “THE VORTEX” thread is back for another re read. Check it out it REALLY WORKS GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://forum.classicseacraft.com/sho...prev=#Post2916

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Old 10-22-2004, 02:10 PM
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Default Re: 23 Self-bailing deck history ?

Fellow-Ship,
Forgive me for giving props to Miles Offshore as inventor of "The Vortex" in another thread. I don't know where my head was at. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Old 10-22-2004, 07:04 PM
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Thanks for the info FELLOW-SHIP looks simple and sound like it works really well. I will try them next time i go out! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-22-2004, 07:14 PM
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E,

You are right, I have been enjoying the hell out of my boat. I have not posted in awhile - this site becomes addictive so I had to go cold turkey for the season.

I have not tracked your progress. Last time I was around, you had just gotten the boat home from the trailer nightmare.

Our projects are similar. All I can tell you is that I am real happy with the outcome of mine. I do notice there are many new names so FYI: I re-did a 23' 1975 Tsunmai w/ (2) i/o's and converted to (1) i/o - and a "lot more".

E - I am really happy with the Mercruiser 300HP 5.7 horizon w/ a Bravo 3. I have the original fuel tank too ( if I were you, I'd epoxy paint it anyway - it is EZ and cannot hurt! ). Are they 72 gallons ?

As for the scupper issue - it is definitely a pain in the ass: At dockside, no water comes in. Underway, no water. One guy weighing 185 (me!) in a corner and water will come in a very little - but when the boat is rocking a bit and I'm in the corner, the water coming in varies from just filling the drain cutout to 1" of water ( covering an area about 8" x 1'-2' ). Two guys in that corner and the water is coming in w/ ease - add wave action and wet feet are a sure thing.. I would have gone out the transom with scuppers, but I never did hear one testimonial from a Tsunami/Sceptre that it worked. If I knew it would work, I would have done the extra work to avoid this slight, but 'real' hassle.

I do use drain plugs most the time and pull them out when done for the day. That works perfect. But, now I am using a 5 gallon pail as a temporary live well, for discretion, and I drain to the floor out the scupper and so a plug is not used ( I wear rubber boots ).

I never tried the 'ole Vortex, but I do like the idea. I do think of other fix's, but have not come up with anything better than the Vortex idea. I know some guys like the Rabud ball scupper. I leave my boat in all season (8 months ) and the growth I get on my drive and tabs says that the ball scupper idea would not work the way I want it to.

Mind you, this is the only thing that is a small hassle.

The package I chose is perfect for the boat. I run her at 3200 on average @ 29 mph and she burns 5.5-6.5 gallons an hour. She moves fast when I need her to. She tops out at 4500 rpm @ 48-50 mph. She will drink fuel at that rpm.

Trim tabs - what can I say - I use them more than anything on the boat. I have the Bennett 12x12's and that is what I would recommend. The boat demands tabs. Period. What a shit_y ride it would be without them.

Another area I really do not like: the companion way hatch cover. A real pain; it leaks in the front part, near the windshield and needs to be taken off and stowed below to get to the bow. I think about how to do away with it all the time.

FYI: I did find out who made the original cuddy ladder - Chrysler Marine Corp. An out of business subs. of Chrysler. I cannot believe it, but I found and bought a brand new one on eBay for $50. It was a miracle.

Well. That does it for me. Hope this helped a bit. Good luck and as you know - in the spirit of this site - ask any questions you might have.

Alan
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Old 10-23-2004, 07:34 PM
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I would be concerned about changing the center of gravity as well.

Finster

I think you need to contact BP and score a second SeaMark Bracket [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
Two fat guys like me coupled with that bad azz Merc your center of gravity on that der Vette has just shifted from "Cat-a-Tonic" to "RocketMan"

BTW: My boat gets it's Seamark Bracket /Transom enclosed start next week.....
Chuck, I think your missing what I mean. Regardless how fat one is, the deck is where all that fatness rests. Raise the deck and raise the center of gravity. I could be wrong but my feeling is that even an 1" or 2" could make a difference in the boats handling. I am sure everyone thats done will tell me different, but I wouldn't do it to any of my boats.

And yes DH is already prepared for the second bracket[img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] That Gill bracket is a freak of nature, holy crap! Though I have to say the boat didn't sit as low as you would think with a 575lb. motor sitting back that far with no floation. Go figure.
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Old 10-23-2004, 08:47 PM
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That Gill bracket is a freak of nature, holy crap!
There's only one freak of nature on this thread. His name is NOT Gill...
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Old 10-23-2004, 09:05 PM
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It's Not Gill it's......





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