Here We Go Again - Page 7

1bayouboy · #61 10-24-2006, 12:40 PM

Hmmm....on more thinking about it, since the floor is part of the liner would it matter if I do the floor with the cap on...???...I haven't progressed far enough to see how the liner attaches to the hull sides.

RingLeader · #62 10-24-2006, 05:16 PM

When you take the cap off of almost any boat there is a similiarity of a fat lady coming out of a girdle. The sides bowed out a bit, its their tendency. Unfortunately, you cored/stiffened those sides to hold this new shape. I'd say you are going to have to modify the cap as you eluded.

Hind sight is always 20/20, and honestly the same thing would have happened to me. I chalk them up to my never ending lists of rookie mistakes. Good thing is that I only have to make a mistake once. And hopefully someone else will learn a lesson from your hard work... after all, that is why we have these webpages and forums.

I think the way that you had cut the cap would have allowed you to reposition it onto the hull where you could have then put the core material into the sides as well as any decking that joins up to the hull sides. Once glassed and cured, you could have re-removed the cap to continue any work that you were doing to it.

Another method would have been to cut and install some ribs (2x4's would be fine) beam-wise in the boat before removing the cap. These would stay in place until the cap was ready to go back. However that would make moving around inside the hull a little more difficult.

Looking great though. You'll make it right in the end.

Spidercrab · #63 10-24-2006, 06:19 PM

mr ringleader

me ole girlfriend used to wear dem girdle thingies but i got her da southern stile swimmin hole suit. she be the one wearin all the time

see ya sam

Bigshrimpin · #64 10-24-2006, 07:31 PM

I had the same problem. Removing the cap allowed the sides to relax and the boat got 2 inches shorter. I removed the bow supports/rollers on the trailer and put a jack + a 4ft length of a 4x4 length wise under the middle of the hull. I jacked the boat up and within a day the sides of the boat sucked in enough to put the cap back on and the boat grew 2" (back to it's "normal" length). I'm sure there was a temporary hook in the hull, but it worked for me. Don't forget to keep the pressure on the bow with the winch.

GradySailfish · #65 10-25-2006, 11:17 AM

Strick...don't panic I had the same problem, although my situation might have been easier since I didn't recore the hullsides!

You need two guys for this and some pry/crow bars......the top cap will flex a little and sung up onto the top. I was panicked when I test fit my top-cap I removed from my 20 MA, but eventually after some prying, cursing, pushing, cursing, more prying it came on, but then I had to remove it again to modify a live well....this weekend I will have to put it on again!

strick · #66 10-25-2006, 11:51 PM

And a fat lady it was. Thanks fellas for the encouragement but she is not budging. No amount of jacking,pushing, or prying will get it to fit. The hull grew 2 inches in each side. The good news is that I now have gained more cockpit space...the bad news is that I've created more work for myself. I've already cut the deck cap. I think my next move will be to make some side supports for the deck cap in several areas along both sides of the hull..glass in a forward bulk head were the anchor locker is (like in the 23sf) put the cap back on temporarily install the cap in place to get some measurements take the cap off and then re-glass the the cap together. It is cut down the middle over the anchor locker.

The reason I posted this mistake was like Ringleader said to help someone from doing the same thing. I get a lot out of these web sites and hopfully I can give some thing back once in a while even if it's to my own embarrasment. It will be fixed right in the end and look good. In my hurry to get things done I'm sure there will be more mistakes to come for this backyard would be wanna be boat restorer.

strick

P.S. Spidercrab that is one sure firing mama you have there. Over here in California they are little more on the skinny side. Got any more pics?

thehermit · #67 10-27-2006, 02:22 PM

Strck,
Carefull what you ask spidercrab for

Oh yea and there not called mistakes there called modifications! The work you are doing is top notch keep it coming.

strick · #68 10-30-2006, 02:09 AM

Cap set back in place and adjusted to the right height.

I made some small one off molds for the three cap side supports that will go on either side of the boat. The parts come out of these molds will be solid fiberglass and will get laminated to the side of the hull.

2x4's bolted to the cap to hold it all in place for removal.

The cap came off OK and I now have my work cut out to fix it so it will be sound. This week I hope to finish glassing over the balsa core, make the side supports and get to work on finishing the cap.

strick

Lenny · #69 10-30-2006, 09:39 PM

Strick can't believe you have got as much done as you have! One thing I have seen with your flooring and casting deck, you have glassed these to the sides of the boat whereas before they were part of the liner, won't this cause a hard spot where that is glassed and cause cracking ?

strick · #70 10-31-2006, 12:03 PM

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Strick can't believe you have got as much done as you have! One thing I have seen with your flooring and casting deck, you have glassed these to the sides of the boat whereas before they were part of the liner, won't this cause a hard spot where that is glassed and cause cracking ?

Hard spots come into play when there is an area of flexibility touching the hard spot such as the sides of the hull touching the floor. However I am reinforcing the sides of the hull with coring side supports and glass to make them stiffer so there will be minimal if any flexibility at that area. The whole boat will be one big hard spot when I'm done with it.

strick