Thru hull scuppers ... How did ya fix em

[Scott]

The thru hull scuppers in the 23……. How did you guys fix them???

One of mine is corroded and eaten away .... and I'm thinking its mounted through wood (Fellow-ship did you say they were in a block of wood??)

Any easy, curse free methods for removal of the old brass tubes and replacement with...I guess the same??? Unfortunately the top half of the tube (closest to the deck) is in there pretty good....but the bottom half is just about gone. Where do you find the replacement tubes and what’s the best way to get them back in there....I think I was told at one point Whaler has them long enough to reach the deck from outside the hull???

At this time I want to replace as originally designed.....In the future that may change ….but until the transom is addressed .. one way or another ....I'll most likely leave them thru the deck.

Thanks
Scott

[Scott]

Anyone???? No one's had to replace these tubes???

OK....how about a curse FULL method of removal???

They are in there like concrete!!!!! [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img]

[TonyS]

Hi Scott, On my 1986 23' walkaround they were cheap plastic ones, So I could just brake them out. Then I checked to make sure the transom wood was dry then seal it with 5200 and install new brass thru hulls with 5200. There is something be sold that will remove old sealer like 5200 at West Marine and Boat US. Hope this helps.
P.S. It still was not easy.

[Trayder]

Scott-

I have learned from our friends @ the Classic Whaler site that Boston Whaler dealers can get these tubes in very long length's. I guess the Boston Whaler Montauk and Outrages utilize them with in there hull. I am pretty sure Hammer ordered some from his local Whaler dealer and they worked well.

[Miles Offshore]

One of my friends made a flaring tool for use when installing them also. Pretty simple tool. Also instead of the 5200 you might think about using the 4200 instead so if you have to replace them again in another 20 years it will be easier to remove. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] Mine were plastic as well and came out easily so I cant comment on how fifficult it is to remove the brass tubes. However I bought (and still have) useless 4" tubes that were too short to work. Craig

[PressureDrop]

no holes in my transom, just 2 3700 bilge pumps below deck, if those cant keep the water out., the boat does not deserve to float

[FELLOW-SHIP]

HA SCOTT
SORRY I DIDN’T SEE YOUR POST TILL NOW. THOSE SCUPPERS TO GO DIRECTLY THROUGH A 3’X 3’ X 8-12” LONG BLOCK OF WOOD IT IS LAMINATED WITH GLASS AND IT FITS AGAINST THE CORNER OF THE HULL AND GOES FROM ABOUT 2” IN FRONT OF THE SCUPPER TO THE TRANSOM AND THE TRANSOM TIES INTO IT FOR ADDED SUPPORT. IF THE WOOD IS NOT SHOT, BUT PROBABLY IT IS DUE TO THE SCUPPER BEING SHOT YOU COULD REPLACE JUST THE SCUPPER. I FOUND MY SCUPPER’S AT A GOOD MARINE HARDWARE STORE THEY DO MAKE THESE SCUPPER’S 4” LONG. IF YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE BLOCKS OF WOOD YOU WILL HAVE A REAL PROBLEM ATTEMPTING TO DO THAT WITH OUT DOING THE TRANSOM FROM THE INSIDE. I DON’T SEE ANY EASY WAY OF GETTING TO THOSE BLOCKS OF WOOD ANY OTHER WAY WITH OUT TARRING UP A LOT OF GOOD DECKING AREA JUST TO GET TO THEM. I DID MINE WHEN I DID THE TRANSOM. THE ONLY OTHER METHOD YOU COULD USE IS TO REMOVE THE SCUPPER (BRASS TUBE) DO EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO CLEAN UP THE INSIDE WHERE THE WOOD WILL BE OR SHOULD HAVE SAID USE TO BE. THEN BLOCK OFF THE BOTTOM WITH SOMETHING AND THEN FILL IN THE VOID FROM THE TOP WITH RESIN AND FAIRING COMPOUND THE GLASS THAT GOES AROUND THE WOOD COULD PROVE SUPPORT TO PUT FAIRING COMPOUND IN TO FILL IN THE VOID. I WOULDN’T USE JUST RESIN DUE TO THE ORIGINAL LAMINATION WAS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO PREVENT LEAKING OF THE RESIN OUT OF THE GLASSED FRAME SURROUNDING THE WOOD BLOCK. THIS COULD BE A POTENTIAL MAJOR PROBLEM IF WATER LEAKS FROM AROUND THE TUBES INTO THAT AREA AND THAT AREA DOES NOT CONTAIN THE WATER YOU HAVE A POTENTIAL LEAK THAT GOES DIRECTLY INTO THE BILGE. I BET MORE THAT ONE SEACRAFT HAS SUNK BECAUSE OF THE SCUPPERS LEAKING FROM AROUND THIS 4” SCUPPER. IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS LET ME KNOW I REMEMBER SPENDING A ENTIRE WEEKEND DOING MINE.
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[FELLOW-SHIP]

HA SCOTT
NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT I THINK THOSE SCUPPER'S WERE 6" LONG.
FELLOW-SHIP

[Scott]

Thanks for the all the info guys....

Fellow-Ship.............I had a feeling you were going to say that!!!!! I guess you determined the problem when the cap came off the boat and you started demolition the splashwell. I've heard guys say their decks were soft back by the scuppers.....and when it got real cold it turned solid (hence the water saturated support you speak of). Thats not the case with mine.....the deck is rock solid all the time...and I'm hoping that the area around the tube is too since I cant budge the old brass tubes. And I think your right about the length....I pretty sure it may be a little longer than 4".

Miles .... the flaring tool .... threaded drill rod and a couple of nuts and large washers????? I saw one for sale but I 'm not paying $75 for a one shot deal.

[JohnB]

Scott/All,
I will be putting a bracket on my boat soon, and will be doing some transom engineering in the process. One idea I have is to run the scullpers out the side instead of thru the transom. I am at the point where other than the bracket bolts, I am not going to put any holes in the new transome, period. Anyone had any experience, or seen this done?
Thanks