Bilge venting on newer 23' CC

Sleeto · #1 10-30-2004, 08:29 AM

My 23 CC is an '89 built by Tracker. They have eliminated the 4 rectangular vents in the hull. How is the bilge vented without these vents? I just had a fuel spill into the bilge and realized that venting is an important issue with internal gas tanks.

Sleeto · #2 11-01-2004, 09:41 AM

OK, let me ask this differently. How can I vent the bilge on my 23 CC SC??

Capt Chuck · #3 11-01-2004, 10:21 AM

Paul

If I'm not mistaken the inner liner is still the same and has the raceway where the original venting took place from the outside? If so you could cut through outside as the old hulls or install a vent in the raceway inside under the gunnels.

I've shown you a possible area with black tape in the picture [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Sleeto · #4 11-01-2004, 07:06 PM

Capt. Chuck,

Thanks for the photo and response. I don't have any areas as wide as the one shown on your pic, but I think at least you have given me a place to start.

Anyone with a newer boat, or someone who has sealed the original vents should be concerned. I had a defective fuel guage which caused me to pump too much gasoline into the tank without getting anything out of the overflow. There was a leak at the sending unit at the top of the tank, and 5 gallons of gasoline went into the bilge over a 24 hour period. Fortunately this happened while the boat was out of the water and I could drain the bilge into a bucket.

But, this is still a very large problem if the bilge is not vented. I shut the batteries down, cut open the gas tank hatch and left everything open for 2 days.

Miles Offshore · #5 11-01-2004, 07:20 PM

blizzard- are there any vents in your console??? There are 4 in mine- 2 in the front in addition one port and starboard on the console itself. these in addition to the 4 on the hull. I cannot believe there are not any hull vents at alld. The way I read the cg requirements they are mandatory. (i know we went through this before). Anyways I'd be scared as hell, sounds like you have done the best you can- not even a bilge blower on that boat??? Thats unreal- anyone else have a boat that doesnt have a blower on it??? (another law that was effective around 1980 I think, for all i/o's and ib's) please be careful- craig [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

ocuyler · #6 11-01-2004, 07:53 PM

Blizzard,

I have the same model and year as you. I am 1/2 way through this restoration and at the point where I have replaced the fuel tank and have yet to replace the panal that covers it. The old tank was foamed in and soaked with gas. The fill hose was cracked and leaking, as was the sending unit, as you indicated. I see no means of venting it, as the tank was in compartment between the stringers with bulkheads on each end and only 1" open space on top.

There are the raceway accesses on either side, but that hardly would be considered a vent.

I installed the new tank via the Pascoe method so there is some air flow under the tank. I addition, I drilled 1" diameter holes in the front and back bulkheads as well as the bottom ply to encourage drainage (water or gas). All that was primarily an excersize to keep the wood dry.

There is still no means of positive air flow. I've never seen an outboard boat with a blower. My 2003 Whaler is basicaly the same design.

You bring up an interesting subject and I'm not sure what I'll do about it. The default, of course, is to do nothing and just be sure that all the fill and vent hoses are well connected, the tank is properly grounded, etc. I'm moving the batteries to the cooler space under the front space to keep weight forward and isolate them from the rest of the boat.

I would not like to cut holes in the boat to add vents, but will be following the thoughts that this thread will inevitably evoke.

Miles Offshore · #7 11-01-2004, 10:14 PM

Sorry i didnt realize it was an outboard, thought it was an i/o- still, i think any boat with a below deck fuel tank should havea blower. I hope you guys figure it out, thats scary.

Sleeto · #8 11-02-2004, 12:58 PM

Five boat has a very good point - the tank is baically sealed in its own area on both sides and in the front. However, in my boat I can see the aft end of the tank by looking under the baitwell located just behind the tank.

I think what I will do is to put an electric blower and in/out vents at the stern with an air hose going in a far as I can get it. This will be possible on my boat because the transome has been filled in. But, I would also like to vent the front end by pulling air from the front to the back. Five Boat, do you know if the front of the tank goes all the way to the aft edge of the big forward compartment, or does it end at the front of the console?

ocuyler · #9 11-02-2004, 03:28 PM

Paul,

Here's some before and after:

Now that I look at it, there is enough "breathing room" to draw vapors out of there if you were to install a blower. Although it defies convention, I would consider venting to a spot inside as compared to cutting a hole in the hull. I would also consider a smaller vent like a 4" square s/s flush mount.

IMO, I feel the back bulkhead (bottom image) is important to improve hull integrity as there isn't much lateral support in the area.

Let me know what you decide...

Doghouse4x4 · #10 11-02-2004, 06:22 PM

Does anybody know the year they did away with the vents? My '87 has them still.