Florida Guys Fish I.D.

[pair of jacks]

Ok guys, I have 2 really bad cell phone pics of a couple of the little fish I caught last week off a dock just throwing a small jig. I have to get a Florida fish i.d. book or something as I am only familiar with some of the well knowns like snook, redfish, etc. Can someone see thru these very bad pics for i.d.'s for these two little guys? Thanks

[hugo]

dark one is Mangrove snapper and needs to be at least 12 inches to keep. the second silver one i want to say Grunt but picture is pretty bad for me to be sure, if its mouth was bright orange then it was a grunt.

[Blue197320]

Unless the law has changed I think mangrove snapper needs to be 10 inches to keep.

[McGillicuddy]

Not a Florida guy, but the second one is not a grunt. Looks like a member of the drums/croakers fams, if no canine teeth or chin barbel, I'd steer you toward a silver perch. If it has a barbel on chin I'd say Atlantic croaker.

Heres a reference to some of your croakers: http://www.theoutdoorlodge.com/fishi.../croakers.html

Florida DFW puts out a publication usually available for free at Walmart or wherever licenses are sold

[PigSticker]

Second one looks like a Whiting

[Islandtrader]

The Mangrove if legal are very tasty to eat.

[DonV]

Yes Sir Terry, you are so correct!!! Notice how fish that has snapper hooked to it's name is good eating....like red, yellow tail, mutton, mangrove, etc.

[workinpr0gress]

That second one is dinner for me with a little size, and a stripers dinner if small.

[copout]

mangrove & whiting