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Old 12-02-2016, 06:55 PM
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Default Vacuum Pump to Dry Core ?

Has anyone used a vacuum pump to dry out, via evaporation, a small area of core to prep for epoxy ?

I have a small area in the bow/deck of my 23' Tsunami, where one of the SS rail, deck-base screws leaked into the core a bit ( the one area I did not pot with epoxy !!! ) I'd rather not cut the non-skid and doing from the bottom is nearly impossible due to access.

I've read that this is an effective way to dry out core via vacuum and evaporation.

Anyone been there done that ? Recommendations on the pump and process ?

Thx.
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Old 12-02-2016, 08:01 PM
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Has anyone used a vacuum pump to dry out, via evaporation, a small area of core to prep for epoxy ?

I have a small area in the bow/deck of my 23' Tsunami, where one of the SS rail, deck-base screws leaked into the core a bit ( the one area I did not pot with epoxy !!! ) I'd rather not cut the non-skid and doing from the bottom is nearly impossible due to access.

I've read that this is an effective way to dry out core via vacuum and evaporation.

Anyone been there done that ? Recommendations on the pump and process ?

Thx.
Nope, but heat and denatured alcohol can be your friend.

Just had a thought...dangerous, I know.
What about kosher salt?
This is how you cure fish and meat right?
The salt pulls the water out due to the salinity difference between cell walls.
Osmosis.
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Old 12-02-2016, 11:16 PM
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Has anyone used a vacuum pump to dry out, via evaporation, a small area of core to prep for epoxy ? . . .
Vacuum will work; there was an outfit on Ship Shape TV recently (I know, I can't stand Griviskis either! He'll peddle anything if somebody gives him free stuff!). There is an outfit that does this commercially on big boats for big bucks. If you search the SS TV site, you might find something about it. I have used denatured alcohol and IR heat lamps and that works also.
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Old 12-02-2016, 11:27 PM
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With most vacuum pumps - even fairly high vacuum ones, you can't get the pressure quite low enough to boil the water out. At 80F the boiling point for water is 29.92 in of mercury (or 0.49psia) - it takes a REAL good (and expensive) vac pump to get there. However, with vacuum you may be able to increase the evaporation rate of the water from the area and move a bunch of air through it to improve drying.
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Old 12-02-2016, 11:40 PM
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With most vacuum pumps - even fairly high vacuum ones, you can't get the pressure quite low enough to boil the water out. At 80F the boiling point for water is 29.92 in of mercury (or 0.49psia) - it takes a REAL good (and expensive) vac pump to get there. However, with vacuum you may be able to increase the evaporation rate of the water from the area and move a bunch of air through it to improve drying.
Realistically, if you have water, it may be larger than you hope.
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Old 12-03-2016, 12:39 PM
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Thanks for input, guys. I have a small non, structural area near the forward bow rail stanchion that leaked water through the re-bedding job I did 12 years ago. I want to pull the fittings and let it dry out. I've heard about the vacuum / boiling water out idea and thought it just might work - coupled with alcohol and a heat lamp, drill/allen key core removal. The salt theory, is funny ( I hope you were joking !? ), is saved exclusively for when I brine fish and venison !

I read somewhere that you buy a good air conditioning vacuum pump, drill a hole for a schrader valve ( tire tube filler ), connect vacuum and let it boil the moisture out. It sounds logical, especially in a small area.

I also agree that the wet will be more than I think. Anyone who has played around with re-coring has to assume that ! Water and core are a marriage made in hell !

Any ideas how a DIY'er might go about this ?

I would hate to cut the top nonskid/ deck out to access the wet core to repair this the right way… I've had as much re-coring as I can take.
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Old 12-03-2016, 06:58 PM
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Thanks for input, guys. I have a small non, structural area near the forward bow rail stanchion that leaked water through the re-bedding job I did 12 years ago. I want to pull the fittings and let it dry out. I've heard about the vacuum / boiling water out idea and thought it just might work - coupled with alcohol and a heat lamp, drill/allen key core removal. The salt theory, is funny ( I hope you were joking !? ), is saved exclusively for when I brine fish and venison !

I read somewhere that you buy a good air conditioning vacuum pump, drill a hole for a schrader valve ( tire tube filler ), connect vacuum and let it boil the moisture out. It sounds logical, especially in a small area.

I also agree that the wet will be more than I think. Anyone who has played around with re-coring has to assume that ! Water and core are a marriage made in hell !

Any ideas how a DIY'er might go about this ?

I would hate to cut the top nonskid/ deck out to access the wet core to repair this the right way… I've had as much re-coring as I can take.
Me??? Being a whack job??? I see you don't post much...
Salt has been around as long as dirt. If it worked, Noah would have told us by now.

I do enjoy asking Denny why the earth spins whilst being in an atmosphere tho...
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Old 12-06-2016, 06:19 PM
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Huh ?
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Old 12-06-2016, 07:35 PM
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Huh ?
Yes, I was being funny.
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Old 12-07-2016, 10:07 AM
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Aaah. Got it. So... about the vacuum pump idea ?

Am I ' pissing into the wind ' or will this work for a small area ? And, if it does, and I can dry her out with alcohol, salt etc… What would be the best epoxy, resin that would flow into the dried core and make it solid ?

Again, not a traffic area, but me no-likey wet in 'da core...
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